Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Another trademark move from LE and his right to “demand an apology”

He weaponises apologies. He wanted an apology from her so he could hold it over her head like it invalidates everything she said in the letter. Had he gotten one, he would absolutely refuse to discuss anything Dijana brought up in the first letter since she apologised.

He came after me once on the forum and demanded that I apologise to someone else. He wouldn’t quit it and kept hanging it over my head as it were proof I did something wrong.

But when he was asked to give an apology to his patrons last year by Andrew Gold, he lamely quipped that it would “weaken the currency” the apology he gave to his wife.

Which as we see from these emails he really isn’t sorry to her either. In his head she owes him the apology for backing out of the open marriage and policing his pics in Thailand.

And he’s definitely trying to get into her head right now about these leaks and why she shared such information with other parties.

Dijana owes him yet another apology. Lousy wife, can’t you do anything right?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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For people that don't believe Kim Silvio , which I do , I guess you could always ask M.Ortiz if that story is true.

Ortiz has commented on the leaked letter.

If he had thought this was fake, he most certainly wouldn’t have made this comment. And his name was directly invoked by the story of his cancelled flight and how he stayed with Lloyd in the hotel. Had that not been true, he would have corrected that and questioned the legitimacy of the letter.

Javier then made a much liked tweet subtly directed at Lloyd saying that no one wakes anyone up. The JW wakes themselves up by reading the “apostate” material to begin with.

So…. Yep, the email is genuine. Confirmed by someone who also received it from Dijana and indirectly by another party who was mentioned in it.

So amusing that Jabba the Hutt is lurking here. Now we know what Dijana was talking about when she mentioned he’s always “scrolling”. Probably puts on a movie when the girls are at his place, spreads out soda and bags of crisps on the table and just loses it when reading what’s said about him here. Taking screengrab after screengrab of evidence of “defamation” and placing into a JWN folder for his next round of bullshit lawsuits. And why not? He’s not paying for it. His donors are. As they just did for the hooker who collected her “wages” and left Lloyd’s flat hours ago.

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Christmas Decorations at the Kingdom hall

by Simon in

i can't remember if i've told this story before .... but back in the day, in irlam congregation (northwest england, uk, cheshire #1 circuit i think) we used to rent a kingdom hall for many years before we eventually built our own.. preston hall.

ah, the memories .... it was primarily used as a community hall for old folks, but we had it friday night and sunday morning.. there was a loft and fold-out ladder and we used to store the chairs up their.

every meeting, there would be an assembly line of all the "lads" to pass the chairs down and set them up, then collect them up and pass them back up at the end of the meeting.

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Can’t say that we did but there was this old church the WTS bought and was converting into a KH. There was this huge stained glass rendering of the transfiguration which was behind the podium and very visible. And it was absolutely beautiful and there were even whispers that maybe they shouldn’t take it down, or perhaps alter it slightly to make it more JW appropriate. They ended up reconfiguring the inside and placing the podium at what was the side of the church to avoid people looking at it directly.

This stained glass stayed up for 2 or 3 years though. It actually made for a better overall experience and as the boring and monotonous talks became too much, I would zone in on the stained glass and was the closest I came to an out of body “spiritual” experience.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Let's not get into the whole education game here. There are some that say that one goes to school to be dumbed down and will therefore conform to society's norms more easily. I.E. follow government dictates no matter how absurd they are.

I am educated and have three degrees, so I recognise the fallacy of thinking that higher education is teaching you everything you need to know about your future career. My education probably accounts for 10% of what my job duties are today. The other 90% was attained purely by experience, trial, and error. It was like a stint in the armed forces. Many "skills" taught there I have no use for, but it balanced and prepared me for what my eventual career path entailed.

I recognise Evans' art degree for what it is. Even he felt he chose the wrong study programme, but did not take accountability for making the wrong decision. He blamed the organisation as he always does. But both his parents were on board with his decision to go to college, which was more than any typical JW young adult could have hoped for. Regardless, per his own account it was so generic that no employers were really interested in him.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Last week, in a complete volte face LE dropped all his self justifications because he finally realised nobody was ever going to buy it.

This is precisely what happened. He had finally given up on getting back the patrons who had dropped him. They are now lost to him forever as he made it clear he was not sorry and still believed exJWs should support him. Even after the begging stunt in January, he was already in a negative figure and steadily decreasing to 380 and further. Instead he played the last card he had and culled in all the newbies who had started watching his content after all the drama died down. But he made one critical mistake. He mentioned the "defamation" in the first video, and then in the second video it took up over half. That planted a seed and people now know there is some information out there that runs counter to Lloyd's interests. As he pleads for his audience to think for themselves and do their own research, as well as exposing JWs for keeping their followers away from apostate material, it's gradually going to dawn on them that he's doing the exact same thing.

Whatever way he paints it, that is a tacit admission that his position is indefensible and he can only attract new supporters by obscuring his real position. Now all he can do is hope his new supporters don’t search “Lloyd Evans defamation” in any search engine because his recent patron boost is built on lies and obfuscation and he knows it.

And they will come across this information sooner or later. It's usually a never-JW partner or someone else who will notice that they have a double standard now - JWs are worthy of scrutiny but Lloyd Evans isn't. They will get all worked up when they see the next video, tweet or forum post that is critical of Lloyd Evans. It will become so obvious. Lloyd is betting on the information to be completely buried and pushed to the fringes. This is why he's gloating so much. He wants people to become upset, frustrated and simply tired of his antics that they leave or keep to their own group.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I would respectfully suggest you go to the trouble of studying it for years and gaining a diploma before dishing out diagnoses

This was another underlying theme of this letter. He viewed himself as so superior to his wife, who was only good for taking care of the children and home. He threw her interest in obtaining qualifications in psychiatry (and my God would she have a lot of material for her thesis) right back into her face and basically called her a quack. She was married to him for 15 years but had no grounds to analyse his behaviour because she had no psychiatric degree.

This is likely another gaslighting technique he uses against her. He has a two-year art degree and she as far as I know has only secondary school education. He also earned the money, which he also subtly mentioned, so she was and is essentially a JW wife to him. Stay home, prepare dinner, clean the house, take care of the children and STFU.

If we want to talk about JW Mindsets, Tibor, please do consider that letter and how your benefactor treats his wife precisely how an abusive JW elder would.

But we have the JW Mindset because we understand how sex trafficking works in both Thailand and Croatia? Get a clue.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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It's always "proof proof proof" with these people. Then when you bring them the proof, they look at ways to nick away at the authenticity and even the intentions of the whistleblower. We had a conversation not long ago regarding his financials which were downloaded from the Croatian government website. Some didn't even want to believe those.

So it's always "proof", as in Lloyd Evans going up on his channel with his passport opened to the picture page and saying, "Yes. I did indeed send that email to Dijana".

Ever notice that whatever Lloyd says doesn't have to be backed up by proof? They are "criminal defendants" he tells us! But he shows us no proof other than he filed a lawsuit against them. No proof of service, no proof that the Croatian court is actually pursuing this. He's broke but provides no proof to the patrons he manipulated other than his word. And as we can see and as his wife has told us, he is a habitual liar. And his balance sheet at the end of 2022 proves he's lying.

As a reminder, the "source" or one of them gave us this:

Take a good look at that picture and how fuzzy and pixilated it is. This came from DIJANA. Only other person who had access to it. Lloyd also confirmed it was real in a tweet. Looks to me that she took a pic from her phone of the iCloud pics which were loaded onto her computer.

So I think we can establish that Dijana leaked a lot of information, both verbal and tangible evidence to parties outside her marriage. That email is one such example. But sorry, we'll never get either party to ever come out and confirm it. We had the next closest thing - a known associate and confidant of Dijana who says it is genuine. Meaning of course that she has seen it and it indeed came from Dijana.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Is there some way we can prove that this letter is true and factual?

Outside of Lloyd or Dijana committing career suicide by coming out and saying “yes, that is indeed genuine. Lloyd did indeed send me that, but… he’s really a nice guy!”? No. And they’ll likely never acknowledge its existence.

But as ozziepost alluded to, this has been confirmed by a source who is known to have been allowed access to these documents from Dijana herself.

The lack of denial is another thing. Lloyd’s quick to yell “fake!” and he has not done so. If you were anywhere near Twitter today, you’ll know that many people were absolutely triggered by this, including Lloyd’s old friend Javier Ortiz. And hardly anyone, even those inclined to believe Lloyd, raised the contention they were fakes. Most of the pushback was from people who felt it was private. But even then it was mild.

Everyone who read that was deeply disturbed. As they should be.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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That wasn’t faked, and we have a confirmation from an inside source.

There was so much Lloyd in that letter I think I gained 20 lbs from reading it.

To fake something like that, we’d need to find out the source and get his ass to Hollywood. That would have been next level method acting. Heath Ledger spending a month in a dark Manhattan hotel room to play the Joker.

It was that dark.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Just as you can immediately match something with Lloyds typical modus operandi, this seems to be Dijana's M.O. which is why it seemed obviously legit even before it was confirmed and I think it would be very difficult for someone to write so much and get it so perfect as "Lloyd"

Dijana was quick on the button to jump on Twitter to say the emails weren't real last time. So we know she's not averse to coming on and telling people whether it is false or not.

And if this email was fake, coupled with Kim's assertion that it was genuine, you'd think that we'd be hearing something from her. Or at least from her husband, trying to claim victimhood again by fake emails. And it would be an excellent opportunity for Lloyd/Dijana to drill a hole into Kim's credibility if this were faked.

So far... crickets.

And I doubt we'll be hearing anything about it from them because they are real. Best for them to just not comment in that case.